Happy Friday the 13th

Triskaidekaphobiacs are in a state of panic because today is not only Friday the 13th; it's the second Friday the 13th in the span of four weeks. Such back-to-back Friday the 13ths haven't occurred in twenty years.

I always find it strange that some high-rise buildings still omit the 13th floor, because of course the 13th floor is still there, even if you call it something else.

Wikipedia notes that in east Asia, fear of the number 4 is more common than fear of the number 13:

Tetraphobia, fear of the number 4 — (phonetically similar to 'death') in Korea, China, and Japan, as well as in many East-Asian and some Southeast-Asian countries, it's not uncommon for buildings (including offices, apartments, hotels) to lack floors with the number 4 and Finnish mobile phone manufacturer Nokia's 1xxx-9xxx series of mobile phones does not include any model numbers beginning with a 4. In Taiwan, tetraphobia is so common that there are no 4's or x4's for hospitals.
     Posted By: Alex - Fri Mar 13, 2009
     Category: Superstition

Well, here in Greece it's Tuesday the 13th that causes all the problems.
Posted by Expat47 in Athens, Greece on 03/13/09 at 01:26 PM
San Francisco removed 13th Avenue completely (it's now Funston St.) and shortened 13th St to 1 block (it had been longer but most was turned into DuBoce Street).

Yeah, any time there's a Friday 13th in February there'll be one 4 weeks later.
Posted by StanFlouride on 03/13/09 at 02:30 PM
What is unusual about this year is that there are 3 F/13ths, Feb., Mar., and Nov.

Yeah, DF, I thought of that right after I hit the 'Submit' button.
Posted by StanFlouride on 03/13/09 at 03:40 PM
It's a number! It's really just a number, people. Are you afraid of black cats and ladders, too? Does silling salt of cracking mirrors make you quiver with fear? Grow up.
Posted by kingmonkey in Athens, Ontario on 03/13/09 at 04:30 PM
Of course, it's only Fri 13th if you follow the Gregorian calendar.

Julian calendar, its 2009 Feb 28
Persian calendar, its 1387 Esfand 23
Hebrew calendar, its 5769 Adar 17
Muslim calendar, its 1430 Rabi al-Awwal 16
Indian Civil calendar, its 1930 Phalguna 22

Heck, even computers can't decide the date. On the PC, the serial number date is 39885 (1900 date system) and on Macs its 38423 (1904 date system).

Like kingmonkey said, it's just a number folks. And if you really want to get into a discussion, there really is no date, there is no time, there is only now.

Posted by vegas_girl in Vegas Baby!! on 03/13/09 at 05:12 PM
Yes, it is just a number. But superstitious people are not using logic where Friday the 13th is concerned. By Webster's definition - An irrational belief that an object, action, or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences its outcome. It's like a sports fanatic believing that his team will only win if he wears his lucky jersey.
Posted by Nethie on 03/13/09 at 07:27 PM
my mom is very superstitious. i remember once we were getting a new couch, so the door was propped open. a bird got in and mom flipped, she was screaming, 'shut the bedroom doors!'. suposedly if a bird gets in the house and lands on a bed it means there will be a death in the family. another time i was laying on the floor watching tv and i started nudging the rocking chair. mom told me to stop that it's bad luck to rock an empty rocker. after while i forgot and did it again and she smacked me and made me move and sit somewhere else in the room. she was just always that way, very normal otherwise. i don't flip out about that stuff, but i have caught myself quoting some of it to my kids. and of course i don't go out of my way to challenge the superstitions either. 😊
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 03/13/09 at 09:21 PM
Patty, I can see the bird superstition. Birds, and especially crows, have always been closely linked to the soul. So once coincidence falls into place, a bird landing on something as personal as a bed would mean a soul being set free. My Dad always said putting your hat on the bed meant there was going to be a fight. Don't know the relevance of that one.

Cap'n Ahd, Shi is Japanese for Death? I always knew a woman would be the death of me. 😛
Posted by DownCrisis on 03/14/09 at 01:15 AM
interesting downcrisis i have never heard the hat one before. 😊
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 03/14/09 at 02:11 AM
Did I hear talk of silling?? I better go light some candles or jump backwards 3 times or something.
Posted by Maegan on 03/14/09 at 07:20 PM
Patty, while I was in the money game I had customers that refused to open accounts bearing 666 or 999 in them but.....

What is/was the original shape of "the number of the beast"? I ask this because what Christians are seeing now in their bibles has been seriously washed from the original. Copies of copies, copies of copies of translations, accounts from word of mouth, etc. Then, you've go to factor in what was "chosen" to be the bible back in the 12? century by a group of men. And if the original number was "six hundred sixty six" how was that displayed? Surely not "666".
Posted by Expat47 in Athens, Greece on 03/15/09 at 03:10 AM
I used to work with a woman who called me the devil because I'm atheist(I tried explaining to her that the devil would not be atheist but anti-god; she never got it). Anyway, just to f$%k with her I used to send her bogus req. orders that would be covered with 666. Also, when she would step out of her cube I would change her screensaver to a scrolling 666 or type 666 into her desktop calc.

Expat - I believe that there is recent evidence that the original number was 616. Not 100% sure on that and I don't feel like looking it up right now.
Posted by Madd Maxx on 03/15/09 at 08:13 AM
lol jeff! :lol:
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 03/15/09 at 07:13 PM
Jeff - That's not all completely true. The earliest known version of Mark has nothing about the resurrection but ends with Jesus's death. Plus, there are many instances of margin notes being added as verses into later editions. Also, it doesn't matter how much current versions match the older version when all of them are wrought with errors and contradictions within themselves. And that is probably why the bible is scrutinized more than other works. Which I doubt.

Then, also, alot was destoyed by the church. So what we have is what they wanted us to have with the exception of a few other manuscripts that didn't fall into the hands of the church.
Posted by Madd Maxx on 03/15/09 at 10:03 PM
the victor writes the history. that's just the way it is and the catholic church was the victor in the sense that they guided the begining of christianity mostly unchallenged. being absolutely sure with a flawless and certain account of christianity would destroy the fabric of faith. until we are able to evolve to a point where the good we are capable of far outweighs the evil, most of us need to believe in something greater than ourselves. so we continue to reach for the devine within. we are capable of so much and we fall short so often, we need the incentive to keep trying. some of us keep trying without that incentive and i respect that very much. most of us need god's help to keep making the effort without loosing hope.
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 03/15/09 at 11:39 PM
I make one typo (let's assume it's the only one I've ever made) and it gets thrown back at me twice.

... stupis keyboarf.
Posted by kingmonkey in Athens, Ontario on 03/16/09 at 01:14 PM
What was ignored by the church was ignored for a reason. What was perserved was preserved for a reason.

you are right about that jeff, but with the early church some of the reasons are suspect. the church held alot of power and used it to control the masses at times throughout history. some decisions were made for convenience or for monetary reasons as well. for instance, the celebacy thing had more to do with the church not wanting to support whole families, just the clergyman.
i'm not saying the church is all bad, just that not all decisions were made for religious reasons. also not all popes were great religious leaders.
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 03/16/09 at 06:46 PM
Jeff, I didn't call you a liar. Take a deep breath. OK? Here's a little more info on Mark. It's not just two that end at 16:8 but it includes others that end differently.


You said
What was ignored by the church was ignored for a reason. What was perserved was preserved for a reason. The canon was established early on, and the word "canon" means "rule" or "standard". If it didn't meet the standard, such as the psuedopigryphal writings, it was not included.

That's what I said. We have what they wanted us to have. Doesn't make it holy, just their agenda. But as luck would have it they weren't able to destroy everything so we know there were rival christian sects.

The truth of it is that the whole bible is spurious (new and old testaments). Hardly any of it matches with known history. It contradicts itself. It's just a collection of stories that some pious, dogmatic men decided would be in the "canon" because they had the power and created the "standards".
Posted by Madd Maxx on 03/16/09 at 09:53 PM
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