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Rejoice! that there'll be a new casino about 35 miles from Stockton, Calif., now that a federal court said it will not intervene in the deal by the Me-Wuk Indian tribe (which consists of, all together, one woman and her children) (Seriously). Associated Press via KOVR-TV (Sacramento)
The NCAA voted to start regulating men's basketball coaches' recruiting of 7th and 8th grade boys (down from the current 9th-graders and hoping to stall, for a year or two, the coaches' prospective interest in 6th-graders). Associated Press via New York Times
An F State man shot himself in the bicep without benefit of a gun when he jabbed a bullet with a metal punch (and no, though the story has 7 paragraphs, none mentions why somebody would want to jab a bullet with a metal punch). Daytona Beach News-Journal
The Vatican said it will start discussing more openly just which sins are worse than murder and genocide (which now reportedly include the grave evils of ratting out a confessor and of paying for an abortion). Daily Telegraph (London)
Boy, was this guy surprised: the 69-yr-old man in Belleville, Ill., who got shot in a home invasion, didn't realize he was shot, told the EMT's he was OK, and then died five days later of the gunshot. Belleville News-Democrat
Recurring Theme: It's winter, and newspapers will report it if they find a kid who couldn't resist trying to lick a frozen metal pole. Associated Press via New York Times
The NCAA voted to start regulating men's basketball coaches' recruiting of 7th and 8th grade boys (down from the current 9th-graders and hoping to stall, for a year or two, the coaches' prospective interest in 6th-graders). Associated Press via New York Times
An F State man shot himself in the bicep without benefit of a gun when he jabbed a bullet with a metal punch (and no, though the story has 7 paragraphs, none mentions why somebody would want to jab a bullet with a metal punch). Daytona Beach News-Journal
The Vatican said it will start discussing more openly just which sins are worse than murder and genocide (which now reportedly include the grave evils of ratting out a confessor and of paying for an abortion). Daily Telegraph (London)
Boy, was this guy surprised: the 69-yr-old man in Belleville, Ill., who got shot in a home invasion, didn't realize he was shot, told the EMT's he was OK, and then died five days later of the gunshot. Belleville News-Democrat
Recurring Theme: It's winter, and newspapers will report it if they find a kid who couldn't resist trying to lick a frozen metal pole. Associated Press via New York Times
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which sins are worse than murder
How about pretending all the religion crap is real? How about playing on people's willingness to believe anything a priest tells them?
How about pretending all the religion crap is real? How about playing on people's willingness to believe anything a priest tells them?
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/16/09 at 10:45 AM
recruiting of 7th and 8th grade boys
Why don't they just start paying women to give birth to specially bred athletes? Just pay some retired male players to stud and some retired female players to do the breeding.
Why don't they just start paying women to give birth to specially bred athletes? Just pay some retired male players to stud and some retired female players to do the breeding.
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/16/09 at 10:48 AM
I agree completely..religion=crap. Gee, I wonder if the catholic priests molesting alter boys made the Pope's list of "sins".
Posted by Skitt in SW USA on 01/16/09 at 11:42 AM
Casino I'm overjoyed that the redman is getting some of their own.
Sins Why is it that only Catholic Priests get to legally clam-up about evils that have been done? Who paid for that law?
Shooting While I agree that the robber should have the book thrown at him, it was Bunn's decision to forgo medical attention lead to his (Bunn's) death.
Sins Why is it that only Catholic Priests get to legally clam-up about evils that have been done? Who paid for that law?
Shooting While I agree that the robber should have the book thrown at him, it was Bunn's decision to forgo medical attention lead to his (Bunn's) death.
Posted by Expat47 in Athens, Greece on 01/16/09 at 11:49 AM
Skitt - They kind of do but in a roundabout way. They're more concerned though with an assassination attempt on the Pope. I guess he can't live the rest of his life behind bullet-proof glass...or faith for that matter.
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/16/09 at 11:52 AM
You're entitled to your opinions about religion/God, but you're both wrong. 😊 Too bad, because if I'm wrong, and there is no God, I lost a few hours a week praying/reading, etc, with a gain of a feeling of being cared for, guided and loved no matter what. If you're wrong, and there is a God, chances are, you've lost much, much more, with a gain of nothing more than a feeling of smug superiority.
NCAA: Isn't that how Yao Ming was born? His parents were both extremely tall basketball players "introduced" by the Chinese government.
NCAA: Isn't that how Yao Ming was born? His parents were both extremely tall basketball players "introduced" by the Chinese government.
Posted by BikerPuppy on 01/16/09 at 11:52 AM
Been a while since I've (re)read the bible but Exodus is from the old testament and didn't Jesus ring in a new era of love and forgiveness? Oh, yea, didn't he also run some profiteers out of a temple once?
<U>WARNING: SERIOUS RANT FOLLOWS</U>
I wish every body could have seen the stuff on display in the Vatican treasury way back in the late 60s. Hundreds of solid gold statues just sitting out in the open on crowded tables. The wealth of organized religion is unfathomable yet they don't seem to be able to part with it to help out their own people in times of disaster.
<U>WARNING: SERIOUS RANT FOLLOWS</U>
I wish every body could have seen the stuff on display in the Vatican treasury way back in the late 60s. Hundreds of solid gold statues just sitting out in the open on crowded tables. The wealth of organized religion is unfathomable yet they don't seem to be able to part with it to help out their own people in times of disaster.
Posted by Expat47 in Athens, Greece on 01/16/09 at 12:09 PM
Bikerpuppy - I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to respond.
My hatred (yes strong word but that is what it is) for religion is based on what I learned growing up in a fanatical church. The message was give your heart to God or burn for all eternity in hell. I have a problem with the concept of an all-loving, all-knowing God sending my ass to hell for using the brain that he supposedly gave me. There is more evidence for UFOs, Nessie and Big Foot than there is for God. God, being all-knowing should know that. I would never punish my children forever. I love them too much.
Organized religion is not interested in you (This article makes that clear), other than separating you from your cash.
The church also taught that we are nothing without God. You say "If you're wrong, and there is a God, chances are, you've lost much, much more, with a gain of nothing more than a feeling of smug superiority." I've gained so much more than smug superiority (and that comes from other aspects of me like humor, looks and intelligence - jj). I've gained a belief in my ability to accomplish things in life without having to sit back, pray and hope it falls within the will of an egomaniac creator. You also say about yourself "I lost a few hours a week praying/reading, etc, with a gain of a feeling of being cared for, guided and loved no matter what." I get that from my wife, my kids, my family and my friends. God not needed for that either.
Allright...back to ripping on everything else.
My hatred (yes strong word but that is what it is) for religion is based on what I learned growing up in a fanatical church. The message was give your heart to God or burn for all eternity in hell. I have a problem with the concept of an all-loving, all-knowing God sending my ass to hell for using the brain that he supposedly gave me. There is more evidence for UFOs, Nessie and Big Foot than there is for God. God, being all-knowing should know that. I would never punish my children forever. I love them too much.
Organized religion is not interested in you (This article makes that clear), other than separating you from your cash.
The church also taught that we are nothing without God. You say "If you're wrong, and there is a God, chances are, you've lost much, much more, with a gain of nothing more than a feeling of smug superiority." I've gained so much more than smug superiority (and that comes from other aspects of me like humor, looks and intelligence - jj). I've gained a belief in my ability to accomplish things in life without having to sit back, pray and hope it falls within the will of an egomaniac creator. You also say about yourself "I lost a few hours a week praying/reading, etc, with a gain of a feeling of being cared for, guided and loved no matter what." I get that from my wife, my kids, my family and my friends. God not needed for that either.
Allright...back to ripping on everything else.
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/16/09 at 12:44 PM
Lizebeth - You mustn't be catholic. They have never claimed that all sins are equal.
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/16/09 at 02:15 PM
I agree with Maxx. History has taught us that whatever the church does in the name of God is not a sin. Little sins only require a few prayers to get them cleansed. Big sins, however, require money. Lots and lots of money.
Posted by Expat47 in Athens, Greece on 01/16/09 at 02:30 PM
Not getting into the pros and cons of religion, because to each his own, but I remember reading last year that the Church also decided to redefine the 7 Deadly Sins for our new Millenium. One was the gathering of wealth. I had a picture of the Pope and his buddies sitting at a long, walnut table, dressed in fine robes, picking up their gold pens while saying "Don't look at our bejeweled bonnets or the priceless artwork on the wall behind us."
Posted by lostinthevalleygirl on 01/16/09 at 05:54 PM
another common thread found in WU...utter disdain for what is commonly known as 'religion'.
my favorite fact is that more died in the inquisition than in both world wars combined.
leading people by guilt and fear and making them pay for it is just unreal, and the catholic church has been, is now and probably always will be, the largest criminal organization on earth.
(and I'm not picking on catholics, they're just the most successful)
my favorite fact is that more died in the inquisition than in both world wars combined.
leading people by guilt and fear and making them pay for it is just unreal, and the catholic church has been, is now and probably always will be, the largest criminal organization on earth.
(and I'm not picking on catholics, they're just the most successful)
Posted by mrjazz on 01/16/09 at 09:04 PM
I was just reading through all of this again and I have to say I am shocked by all of you. I make a comment like
I have a problem with the concept of an all-loving, all-knowing God sending my ass to hell for using the brain that he supposedly gave me. There is more evidence for UFOs, Nessie and Big Foot than there is for God.
and nobody bites. 😏
Just to clarify, I do not believe in UFOs, Nessie or Bigfoot. I do use my brain...at least I think I do. 🙄
I have a problem with the concept of an all-loving, all-knowing God sending my ass to hell for using the brain that he supposedly gave me. There is more evidence for UFOs, Nessie and Big Foot than there is for God.
and nobody bites. 😏
Just to clarify, I do not believe in UFOs, Nessie or Bigfoot. I do use my brain...at least I think I do. 🙄
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/16/09 at 10:05 PM
Patty: That was one of the greatest statements I have ever heard a christian make!
Posted by AGFH on 01/17/09 at 09:26 AM
Expat47, another view of Jesus is that he ushered in hell and damnation. The Old Testament doesn't speak of hell. That's Jesus Meek-and-Mild's gift to mankind. That's one view, anyhow.
Posted by Brent in trepid on 01/18/09 at 01:33 AM
jeff in ky, you're a genius. do some research and add the numbers.
be sure you've included everyone the church murdered between the 12th and 19th centuries before you respond. I'm sure they kept detailed records.
be sure you've included everyone the church murdered between the 12th and 19th centuries before you respond. I'm sure they kept detailed records.
Posted by mrjazz on 01/19/09 at 11:32 AM
patty said
what about santa and the easter bunny? the tooth fairy? i know, the boogyman, surely you believe in the boogyman maxx? the abominable snowman? how about the great pumpkin?...
Alright here it is:
Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy - I've got kids who still believe so, yes I believe in all three. I am Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy (not so happy about that one though).
boogyman, abominable snowman - No different than the fantasy figures I have already mentioned so, NO, I don not believe in them.
the Great Pumpkin - I might believe in this one if it was to catch on but up to this point only some lopsided-head kid believes.
what about santa and the easter bunny? the tooth fairy? i know, the boogyman, surely you believe in the boogyman maxx? the abominable snowman? how about the great pumpkin?...
Alright here it is:
Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy - I've got kids who still believe so, yes I believe in all three. I am Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy (not so happy about that one though).
boogyman, abominable snowman - No different than the fantasy figures I have already mentioned so, NO, I don not believe in them.
the Great Pumpkin - I might believe in this one if it was to catch on but up to this point only some lopsided-head kid believes.
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/20/09 at 12:55 PM
Jeff, what is the evidence (or what you perceive as evidence) for the existence of god?
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/20/09 at 12:57 PM
Jeff, you are 100% right...that isn't proof. In fact the only thing it proves is your christian beliefs. I misunderstood you when you said
Maxx, the evidence of God is all around you. However, exposure to evidence does not force faith.
yeah, silly me. I thought you meant evidence, not why you believe in God.
As for proof that he doesn't exist...well, like you know I have no concrete evidence (and the plot thickens). All I can say is that science has been carving away at gods for years and years. According to the bible the earth was created with a firmament (sp?) to house the stars, with a firmament for the sun and the moon, etc. They thought this actually separated the waters from above from the waters below and that a window had to be opened in order for the rain to get in. Crazy ancient people. Well science weighed in on the issue and guess what...that isn't the way it is. There are no firmaments. The stars are actually suns that are billions and billions and billions of light years away. Am I starting to ramble?
You also said
Many prominent scientists are also believers.
If they are truly scientists then they do not deny evolution. Evolution is not contested. The processes of evolution are still being contested but scientist from practically every field of science can see the evidence for and the affects of evolution.
If they do deny evolution, then they probably belong to the ICR. There they have to sign a contract professing their belief in God, Jesus, the bible, you know....the whole nine yards. All test results must fall into that guideline. Well, that isn't science.
Maxx, the evidence of God is all around you. However, exposure to evidence does not force faith.
yeah, silly me. I thought you meant evidence, not why you believe in God.
As for proof that he doesn't exist...well, like you know I have no concrete evidence (and the plot thickens). All I can say is that science has been carving away at gods for years and years. According to the bible the earth was created with a firmament (sp?) to house the stars, with a firmament for the sun and the moon, etc. They thought this actually separated the waters from above from the waters below and that a window had to be opened in order for the rain to get in. Crazy ancient people. Well science weighed in on the issue and guess what...that isn't the way it is. There are no firmaments. The stars are actually suns that are billions and billions and billions of light years away. Am I starting to ramble?
You also said
Many prominent scientists are also believers.
If they are truly scientists then they do not deny evolution. Evolution is not contested. The processes of evolution are still being contested but scientist from practically every field of science can see the evidence for and the affects of evolution.
If they do deny evolution, then they probably belong to the ICR. There they have to sign a contract professing their belief in God, Jesus, the bible, you know....the whole nine yards. All test results must fall into that guideline. Well, that isn't science.
Posted by Madd Maxx on 01/20/09 at 09:43 PM
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